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BATTLER



Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago   

mark my words...dude will break a lot of records and has far surpassed Jordan's credentials at the same age....Has potential to be the best, ever. And this is from a huge Jordan fan
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n0m
FPO, AP
18+ months ago     

soooooo sacraligous to say that...much as i love Bron and not being much a Jordan fan...i dunno...Bron's a beast and is gettin better every game it seems...and i'm sure he'll hold down records...but nobody is gonna ever give him that moniker of being better than Jordan...i honestly think that as long as MJ breathes...he'll hold that title...nobody will be given enough credit to take that crown from him...u gotta look @ it like dude dominated when he wanted to...part of some of the greatest teams ever...retired...came back and won like he never left...made folks around him better...but i think the part that really sticks out and this is something i'm sure a jordan fan can appreciate...dude could have done more...that's the key...anybody that saw dude do some of the things he did early in his career and how he gradually toned it down in order to do enough to get wins...trip dubs were easy...droppin points was easy...shuttin kids down was easy...but he made sure he kept all his shit within the confines of what the team needed...and still dominated...that's the difference...if Bron ever gets his Pippen and wins rings...then we'll take about that greatest stuff...talent wise...maybe...but Jordan won't be unseated until somebody becomes the type of player he was...


to be honest with u...D Wade might be closer than Bron...
BATTLER



Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago     

I understand that, word...but look at it this way. Players are going to be put on a higher pedastol with respect to their team success. Look at Elton Brand. Kid comes in every night and gives you 20 and 10. But was slept on every year until now because the clippers are winning more than the Lakers. Lebron, if you really watch this kid...and im going to say kid because thats exactly what he is. Kid is still playing off instinct. He hasnt been given enough time to truly understand the game. Rookie year, Bron gave you 20, 5 and 5. Something only done in a rookie season by Jordan himself and the only man to average a triple double...Oscar Robertson. That alone cements him. Second year, like the last numbers werent ridiculously impressive for a kid who mind you came out of high school gives you 27, 7, and 7. Wow....thats crazy. Numbers alone on paper is insane. Now , hes giving us 31, 7, and 6. Cmon...and the team is second in the east. Above Miami...who by the way have a much more talented team in Shaq and Wade alone. Bron is 21...meaning he has another 7 years to even be as old as Kobe is now. 240 pounds....6'8" can play the 1 through the 3 effectively. And i havent even mentioned that he's not even aggressive half of the time. He shoots almost 50% from the field. I mean, if he put up as many shots as Kobe or AI, wow...hed average 40 easily. But hes unselfish, much more unselfish than Jordan and is trying to actually learn, and get better. He's next...i promise.
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n0m
FPO, AP
18+ months ago     

i been yellin that next shit bout Bron since kids junior year in high school when i 1st read about kiddo...like i said b4...there is nooooooooo doubt talent wise and with what he's doin he's going to be DatDude so to speak...its just that like u said b4...team gotta get wins in order to get notice...Wins for the Cavs mean nothing...Bron is held @ to high a standard for that...dudes gotta get rings...once he gets rings then we start talkin that Jordan shit...his numbers are gonna be impressive...because his game is massive...period...so Bron will eventually be a player mentioned in the same breathe as some legends...once he gets those rings...jewels matter when ur game is that high...its what sets u apart from the rest...
BATTLER



Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago     

I agree, rings help solidify your legacy but does that mean that Robert Horry is the best player in the league now? No....He has a shit load of rings though. I think the whole ring thing is overrated because thats the reason Kobe doesnt care as much as he should. He already has 3 rings so he figures that everything he does from now on is just going to further solidify his legend. He figures, i score 81 and i already have 3 rings that should be enough to be considered the best. Being the best ever comes with understanding the game. I dont think Bill Russell is the best center ever because he has 11 rings. Look at the team...Not only do you have the best coach ever in terms of rings but you have multiple hall of famers playing alongside you. Bird, Mchale, Dennis Johnson, Robert Parish....cmon. Phil Jacksons a great coach but he doesnt neccessarily have 9 rings all because of it. He has them because hes always been put in a good situation. Moving from a bulls teams that 3 peated twice off the strength of Jordan to a team with a Dominant Shaq and a already polished Kobe with strictly role playing shooters around the court to complement the two. Its simple as that. You dont win rings without a supporting cast. And until the Cavs bring in new heads to complement Bron, it wont happen. Kevin Garnett will go down in history as one of the best ever in my book. Even though he's only been past the 1st round once in his whole 12 year career. Feel me. Bron is carrying this team to the playoffs on his shoulders. Wade has help...Imagine if you took Wade from Miami and switched him with Bron. wow.....lol, shaq would have his best statistical career ever. Word, Bron made Illgauskas an all star two years in a row. lmao....the great ones, legends if you will, make others around them better.
BATTLER



Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago     

Jordan did it in a unique way because alot of people say him as a hawk, a gunner....Lebron has been helping and making people around him better since day one. Once he develops that killer instinct its a wrap. lol....I mean, it took jordan years to understand he was stronger than most shooting guards and develop that mid range fadeaway. Brons already got that and at his posistion is stronger and faster than everyone guarding him. I dont even think he understands how dynamic of a weapon he is. Word, but im at work and niggas is breathing down my back soooooo...yea
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KIsTaStiC
Belleville, Canada
18+ months ago     

lebron is overrated, and will never win a championship.


dwayne wade was / is the best player in that draft class.
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n0m
FPO, AP
18+ months ago     

whoa whoa whoa...i'd neeeeeever say rings are ALL that matter...i'd never say Horry is better than Barkley because of the rings...that shit would be ignant...what i am sayin is for Bron to be considered in that legendary class of a Bird, Jordan, and Magic he'll need to win rings...talent wise those three have to be the best ever...Bron will eventually fit in that class...same way as KG does...guarantee u...if KG had a few rings in there along with what he's done statistically in his career...he'd be mentioned in that class once he hangs it up...rings matter...Barkley was a beast Malone was a beast...Stockton one of the greats to ever play that position...no rings though...shit hurts...not saying a Robert Horry or a Stacey King or Bill Wennington are better because of rings...hell i'm not even sayin a Clyde Drexler is better because of rings...i'm saying there's a pecking order in the history of this league...its one thing to be an all-time great...like a Malone, Stockton, Barkley, where their talent is upper ech...they're in that bracket with the best that's ever played...but beyond that bracket lies a status that only jewerly gets u into...until Bron does it...that cloud is gonna dangle...TALENT WISE YES HE'S THERE...but rings will get him to that secret room...

i'll never dispute what he is as a player and what he brings to a team and what he'd be able to do with talent around him...this is year 3...he's still developing...@ what?...21?...so he's got yearssssss ahead of him to do it...and i know he will...by the time his sneaks are hung up u'd say Magic...Jordan...Bird...Bron...interchangeable order...i just think its too early to say that...without some jewels handy...so we more or less agree on Bron's game and whatnot...
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n0m
FPO, AP
18+ months ago     

couple things rub me wrong though...Zydrunaus didn't become an all-star because of Bron...he became an all-star because he was healthy...in his rookie year...dude was same ech...SAME ECH...with Duncan...neck and neck as the next cats out...dude got hurt lost a lot of that mobility that made him a beast in the making...so his health put him on the all-star roster...not Bron...Shaq HELPS Miami...he don't MAKE Miami...Wade is a beast...period...2nd best player in that class...but even if u switch those 2 it won't matter...same results i believe...Shaq eventually gets negated...Shaq had a Bron like player in Orlando in Penny...when Shaq was even more of a force...plus Bron couldn't survive with that many playmakers around him in Miami...as unselfish as he is...between him and J-Dub...toooooo many passes...so i don't think switchin Wade and Bron would really change shit...Russell...won the majority of his rings with Cousy and company...all those other Celtics u named did the damn thang after Bill was done or damn near done...and dudes rings don't make him great...his game did...the fact he's a banger...shutdown guy...team leader...rebound like no other...and prolly the best roll player to grace the court...new his spot stayed in it and made things happen...other than that...ur gonna be my b-ball guy...congrads Prob...lol...
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n0m
FPO, AP
18+ months ago     

KIsTaStiC wrote:

lebron is overrated, and will never win a championship.


dwayne wade was / is the best player in that draft class.


i've never understood how cats can say Bron is overrated...if ur argument is Wade is the better player between the 2...u might...MIGHT...find some folks to agree with u...but to say that Bron is overrated is silly...there has never been a player that has come into the league with that much hype and pressure @ any age...LET ALONE 18 YEARS OLD...and not only pan out...but play to the level of some of the most seasoned vets in the league...overrated i think not...give him some fuckin credit...
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Kclipse
Las Vegas, NV
18+ months ago     

my take on this is simple... yes lebron is a great player... but to say he is in the class of jordan? come on now... maybe... just maybe he may develop into that class but saying he is jordan stature now... nope... He isn't even the best player in the league right now.. Kobe is a much better player then lebron and please don't give me this he's selfish shit... you do what you do to win games... Id put lebron 2nd on the list but on a whole different level... he has a bright future if he stays healthy... but who can predict he will.
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J-KiiD
Siauliai, L T, Lithuania
18+ months ago     

Uhh... Bron is tooooo overrated... fa shizzle, he aint all that as yall think.. i mean.. hes an advertisement, a showcard, a reclame, commercial.. na^`mean? u cant compare him to MJ and it almost impossible for him to reatch that level... Peepz tryin to make him look like MJ but hes aint even a half good MJ is/was.. I aint denyin, kid has talent but all that MJ crap came thru adverts conversely to MJ who made his way to the top himself... na`^mean?
BATTLER



Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago     

First, lol, im not putting Bron on Jordan's level now. Im saying this....think of all the next jordan talk...from garbage cats like Harold Miner who got the name from 1 dunk to heads like Kobe who got the nickname from being....Kobe. Dont give Zydrunas that much credit. He is one of the best centers in the league. But we're talking about a league where you cant name 10 good....not great, good centers. Center is the weakest posotion in professional ball and has been for a while now. Pretty much since Olajuwan gracefully bowed out. Look at the players though. Kobe averages 33, 5 and 5....the difference is this. Kobe gets his assists when he's trapped on the baseline and throws a last minute desperation pass that happens to turn out to be an assist. Lebron, unlike your Kobe's and Mcgrady's first looks to set up his teamates. We're talkin about a team that last its 2nd leading scorer. The Cavs dont even have a reliable roster. The starters...Big Z, Gooden, James, Snow, Marshall is good at best. Z is sometimes consistent but relies completely on his teamate for his shots. All his buckets are spot up jump shots and free throw line. Drew Gooden doesnt even understand his own game. They dont even call plays for dude. Eric Snow is there to bring the ball up the court. As soon as it passes halfcourt it goes to Lebron....Donyell Marshall is an inconsistant shooter. Kobe has Smush, Lamar Odom, who i must add is the most versatile player in the game and can score almost whenever he wants. and Kwame Brown shows flashes of brilliance. Im not gonna sit here and say Bron's a better scorer than Kobe because truthfully Kobe is one of the best scorers ever. Better scorer than Jordan, but what Kobe lacks is smarts on the court
BATTLER



Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago     

. He has too much of a killer instinct whereas Bron hasnt developed his yet. His buckets look so effortless on the court. Dwayne Wade is great...true....but shouldnt miami be winning more games? Yea, theres no doubting that. With the most dominant force that has ever played...even though hes out of his prime...you cant tell me you cant rely on him for 20 and 10. He fuckin 335....lol. Jason Williams, a beast in the open court, and Toine...just for starters. They have 3 former all stars on the team. Dwayne wade is having A great year but how much better is he making his team? Lebrons a walking triple double. Think grant hill on crack....word


how long has it taken kobe to score 50 in a game? Lebron's done it 3 times....lol and still looks unselfish doing it. lol
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n0m
FPO, AP
18+ months ago     

B-Ball talk...yessssssss...

aight...imma leave the comments about Z alone...i been partial to dude for a minute so we'll agree on the lack of great centers in the league aiding to his level of play...in the days of young Shaq...the Admiral...The Dream...Ewing (as much as i hate dude)...and a healthy Zo...Z might not be as crucial as he is now healthy or not...ur Bron comments are accurate though...like i was saying b4...talent wise and ability wise...there is no question dude will be the next in line with the big 3 in the annals of basketball immortality...i'm just saying for that secret society he'll need rings...numbers...leadership...on court ability...dominance...he's got all that now...all he has to do is stay healthy and win some rings...and he's there with the MJs and Bird...

Odom doesn't play up to his ability...but even if he did i dunno if i'd say he's the most talented in the game...i still say Odom @ his best is a poor man's Garnett with a lil more range...and i'd take Bron's overall game over the Good's anyday...

Kobe i think is a better passer than folks give him credit for...but as u said his killer instinct is top notch...which hinders the rest of his game in my opinion...he's not as smart as he should be @ this point in his career...
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n0m
FPO, AP
18+ months ago     

Wade TO ME...is just a couple notches below Bron...he doesn't have Bron's smarts...or all-around game...i see Wade as a McGrady type...u see signs in him that could make him the best in the league...but he never strings it all 2gether @ once...something seems to block it...as far as the Heat should be better because of Wade's game...and Diesel...J Williams...Toine...and the Glove...i can't agree with u on that...due to the fact that there is a such thing as too much talent hurting a team...in the end there's only one ball to go around...and with a load of guys that need that ball to make plays...this isn't baseball where u can have 9 all-stars and dominant...not everybody gets individual chances...everybody has to tone game down for the others to shine...and in a sport like basketball...all that game on one squad hurts more than it helps...this ain't streetball or a pickup game...its not 1st to 21 5 on 5...u gotta go 4 quarters and strategize and get guys the ball...some players take the rock and do their own thing...some need help...this is a team of guys that work better on their own...there in lies the reason why it doesn't really work as well as one might think it would...
BATTLER



Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago     

eh....i agree, team chemistry is a must but you cant use that as an excuse for a subpar first half for Miami. Im sure everyone in Miami is kinda dissapointed considering the changes they made in the offseason. On paper, they're one of the best teams in the league. But Wade isnt a natural 2. He shouldnt be playing shooting guard. Thats just forcing him out of him natural position to let J Will or Payton run the show. All J will has to do to make this team win a shit load of games is control the pace. They dont get out on the break enough. Shaq puts forth lackluster performances because of a lack of desire. Antoine Walker is a waste but looks decent on paper as well(with the exception of his horrible Field Goal percentage and shot selection). Um....Wade definately has what it takes to be the best in the league. I wont ever deny that. I knew that in dudes rookie year. hes puttin up like 28, 6, 5 which is ridiculous considering who he shares the ball with. Kobe never put up overall numbers like that alongside shaq, Much less in only his 3rd year. He needs to work on his perimeter shot a bit more if he plans on staying at the 2 and his mam to man defense. Bron I think is a couple notches above Wade only because hes more physically gifted. Lebron is like Magic with a 46 inch vertical and less heart. Word....um, Kobe is the best offensive player ever i think. I kno thats a big statement but whatever. Some may argue Wilt but during an era where the Shot clock wasnt even evented and the next biggest person on the court was like 6'6" Wilt breezed through. Wilt in his prime would have gotten buttfucked by Shaq in his.
BATTLER



Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago     

Kobe can score from anywhere on the court, whether it be a dunk or a 3 thats like 8 feet behind the line. Hes so perfect offensively. Only problem is he doesnt look to make his teamates better, he looks to carry them on his back every game. He's selfish. I think pound for pound though, AI is the nicest. At 6 feet even and 165 hes unbelievable. Probably the hardest star to build a team around in Nba history....um, Dallas is playing impressive, Steve Nash is putting up Mvp numbers again for Pheonix and has my vote so far followed by Lebron..haha....um...i dont kno what else to talk about....oh yea, i knew the Pistons wouldnt break the bulls record. I prolly would have cried though, huge dynasty bulls fan. um, if Amarie Stoudemire comes back before the playoffs start, watch out for the Suns in the finals. Upset over the Spurs?....we'll see.
BATTLER



Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago     

and on to Lamar Odom, the most underrated player in the league....well, besides Elton Brand and Shawn Marion. dudes like 6'10".....and played the 1 for alot of his career but is also way too unselfish. 6 fuckin 10 playing the point. Easily the most diverse player in the league. Garnett's shot isnt as polished nor is his handle. Lamar's got it. If they called more plays for Odom they would have defenders guessing. I mean cmon.....how many point guards who are good guarding the perimter can stick a dude whos 6' 10".....and how many power forwards can guard a guy with the same height but with a point guards handle. exactly....very few, Lamar could be the easiest all star ever, seriously.... hes puttin up like 15 9 and 6....thats crazy for a guy who only scores when he can. Word, but Navy calls so, yea...ill be back.


Anyone see Lebron dunk on Delonte West of the celtics a couple weeks ago? ugghh...
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n0m
FPO, AP
18+ months ago     

Odom's D is suspect homie...its decent...he doesn't put enough effort into it...but even when he does...its not THAT great...he can stick with a few smaller guys...but not shutdown anybody...the A.I comment will be argued forever...because of his size and what he accomplishes with it...so u have a case there...i agree with Bron being better because of physical attributes over Wade...but like u said urself...the all-stars on Miami hurts more than helps...like u said...lackluster performances from Shaq...Toine...asking J Will to just control rock on that team of stars is a lot...and yeah Wade is playin out of position...too much talent and not enough basketball to go around...with a bunch of players that need to be the main guy to thrive and there u go...all-star roster with results not as good as advertised...
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Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago     

word, but fuck Lamar's D. A lot of great players dont play good D. Look at AI....he's one of the worst one on one defenders in the league but he stays in the top of the steals category because he plays the passing lanes. But he's still a liability on defense. But no matter who Lamar is playing chances are he has more offensive talent that they do. Seriously, but hes just another case of a guy who doesnt make use of all his attributes. man, i swear i can go on for days on Basketball. I might just reply to this post from now on and stop battling...lmao
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n0m
FPO, AP
18+ months ago     

imma sports not myself...imma talk to the mods about renaming this forum...to the nomzone or something...lol...but yeah man b-ball was my shit for a minute...i've fallen back a little but i keep up enough to know what's what...football i got on lock though...this draft is gonna be nice...

question...what u think about Chris Paul?...dude surprise u?...
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Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago     

lol, i was actually just having this chris paul convo today....yea, he definately suprised me. I thought this draft was fairly weak but it looks like it wasnt as bad as i originally thought. Chris Paul is having a great rookie campaign. Hes got the Hornets sitting right around 500 which is crazy considering their roster. Its trash....lol, for an undersized rookie point guard hes doing his thing. And he's doing his thing and being a great leader at the same time. Not too many rookies have done that. Hes got rookie of the year locked down unless Andrew Bogut goes crazy in the second half of the season and the bucks somehow make the playoffs. Right now the hornets are fighting for the 8th spot...whats crazy is that they're fighting for playoff contention in the west. wow....thats nuts, the fucking Hornets
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realistic
DANBURY, CT
18+ months ago     

i feel that kobe is closer to jordan than lebron is... since his 81 points...--
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-U-neek-
Cincinnati, OH
18+ months ago     

dawg u cant put one performance to account to being close to jordan
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n0m
FPO, AP
18+ months ago     

-U-neek- wrote:

dawg u cant put one performance to account to being close to jordan



word...if ur gonna compare Kobe to being Jordan...then do it based on the fact that dude's game is modeled more closely to Mike's than any other player...don't base it off an 81 point performance...that's just silly...
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Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago     

word, also remember that lebron has like 7 years until he'll be as old as kobe is now.....shudders at the thought
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realistic
DANBURY, CT
18+ months ago     

oh no what im saying i didnt mean it like that lol.... kobe overall is closer to jordan than any other player in the nba.....
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Text Spittage King
Wilmington, NC
18+ months ago     

out of playoffs
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Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago     

Nom, look at the Lakers now and tell me who's got the better supporting cast. Same roster withn exception of Derek Fisher? haha
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Darric
Bahia De Kino, Mexico
18+ months ago     

Nick Van Exel > LeBron/Wade
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n0m
FPO, AP
18+ months ago     

Problem wrote:

Nom, look at the Lakers now and tell me who's got the better supporting cast. Same roster withn exception of Derek Fisher? haha




i just read our post in this thread and i'm glad ur back buddy...lol...

all i wanna know is...did u really see any of this shit with the Celts coming...i knew 3 hall of famers would be good for the squad but i didn't see this shit...i still see it fizzling out though as the year goes on...i think the lack of bench in gonna hurt down the stretch...shits still crazy though...


what u think of this year so far...

P.S. Darric's and idiot...
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Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago     

Yea man, the Celts have suprised a lot of people. I think the whole issue was the league still transitioning from that move. I mean, look at Dallas last season....they got off to a great start because night in and night out no one had enough answers or knew exactly how they would play them. This years not the same story. Coming into a game im sure its tough to matchup with them or at least be intimidated during the game feeling inferior to that Hall of Fame team. Now, teams are playing them different. Attacking their bigs early you kno...They've taken all 6 losses to the East though...2 to the Wizards, back to back games...both without Gilbert. I mean, there deep but definetly beatable. plus, they havent faced Dallas, Pheonix or San Antonio as of yet. We'll see as the season progresses though...i think in order for them to make serious progress though they'll have to push most plays through KG...like a normal team would. Right now they play some games like they have 3 hall of famers...Lacksidasical because they kno with the lineup they'll always be in the game.....Besides the Celtics though, the Cavs made their turn around...the Hornets have the best record in West right now...That should be the top story..lol, crazy. Um, remember we had that talk about swapping Dwade and Lebron...i promise u Nom, if Lebron played for the heat they wouldnt be 8-32 right now.....24 games under 500? thats worse that New York....dropped 15 straight!....
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Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago     

Yea man, the Celts have suprised a lot of people. I think the whole issue was the league still transitioning from that move. I mean, look at Dallas last season....they got off to a great start because night in and night out no one had enough answers or knew exactly how they would play them. This years not the same story. Coming into a game im sure its tough to matchup with them or at least be intimidated during the game feeling inferior to that Hall of Fame team. Now, teams are playing them different. Attacking their bigs early you kno...They've taken all 6 losses to the East though...2 to the Wizards, back to back games...both without Gilbert. I mean, there deep but definetly beatable. plus, they havent faced Dallas, Pheonix or San Antonio as of yet. We'll see as the season progresses though...i think in order for them to make serious progress though they'll have to push most plays through KG...like a normal team would. Right now they play some games like they have 3 hall of famers...Lacksidasical because they kno with the lineup they'll always be in the game.....Besides the Celtics though, the Cavs made their turn around...the Hornets have the best record in West right now...That should be the top story..lol, crazy. Um, remember we had that talk about swapping Dwade and Lebron...i promise u Nom, if Lebron played for the heat they wouldnt be 8-32 right now.....24 games under 500? thats worse that New York....dropped 15 straight!....
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n0m
FPO, AP
18+ months ago     

time to get back in the saddle...

Bron/Wade swap...i was thinkin the same thing when i went back over this original convo...even Wade @ 100% couldn't help that team...but they been old...so it was a matter of time...but yeah noooooooo doubt Bron would make a huge difference on that Heat team...he's basically playin by himself anyway in Cleveland...

the celts i didn't predict would be this good...and i'm stickin to my guns when i say they're gone wear down as the year goes on...like u said once teams start adjusting more minutes logged by the hall of famers means mileage wear and tear and breakdown...i said from jump KG might be the most talented 4 in the East now...but he's not necessarily geared for the style and will get beat up once they're forced to play him big minutes...plus that bench being ass don't help...they'll need some depth @ some point and time especially around and during playoff time...but yeah tabs on the celts...

Nawlins and my boy Chris Paul...under the radar as a team...and Paul himself i still don't think gets the credit he deserves...arguments can be made obviously...but i think Paul could possibly be the best PG in the game today...blasphemous as that is when Nash is MVPin it up...but Paul is ridic...and right now right behind Bron and ahead of Manchild Howard in my opinion as a young guy i'd start a franchise with and build around...
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Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago     

I dont know man, i tried to argue the whole age thing with the heat but...Sn Antonio's one of the oldest in the league. If not the oldest...they have vets and cant get it done. u have to get rid of coach no matter what. They're doing what the Celtics did last year with an above average team in my opinion. Yea, and about Chris Paul...i definately saw his growth coming but i didnt see the team playing this well. And yea, id say hes playing best point right now...so far...lol. And yea, one of the Big Three is bound to go down at some point for the celts. All mid 30's. 82 games is rough...None has really had notable playoff experience but they however do seem to be able to play tough defense which is what that long stretch is about. I dont think their bench is that terrible, its just tough to have to replace Paul, Ray, or Kevin, and perform nightly...Their bench was last years starters...lol. Eddie House is automatic with the Jumper...Scalabrinie got an outside touch...Tony Allen shows signs of brilliance on and off...and Leon Powe is an average big man...Glen "Big Baby" Davis has played good as well....They dont just have 6 losses cause of the bench not producing...nuts....
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Problem
Baltimore, MD
18+ months ago     

you kno...um...Lebron is head and head with Kobe for Mvp this year...He's doing all this by himself, your right. Larry Hughes proves that he was a horrible acquisition with each game. Its embarrassing cause im a Cavs fan and Ill watch game and root for dude and he just makes himself look stupid...Cavs are the only team with a Point Guard and Shooting Guard shooting under 40%....unacceptable. Sasha Pavlovic is ur starter? Who...man....Kobe, to me, coulda been doing this years ago...making people better...look at the lakers. Lamar Odom's been a beast, i said that too...ha...just been taking a backseat just like the entire squad had been....Lebron though, again, gives you 30pts, almost 8 assists and rebounds a game. Its crazy...what u think of Kevin Durant? or J Kidd this year with those trip dubs...he's like 1 rebound away from AVERAGING A TRIPLE DOUBLE....wow....thats
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Mike Gadsby
Feltham, United Kingdom
18+ months ago     

you two really should watch an English/Italian/Spanish 'soccer' match.
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n0m
FPO, AP
18+ months ago     

Mike Gadsby wrote:

you two really should watch an English/Italian/Spanish 'soccer' match.





i'm a bigger fan than u'd think buddy...what sucks for me is that my soccer fix is limited to just EPL and some Italian league...been tryin to catch a Barca game since forever so i can see how well Henry meshes with Messi and Ronaldinho but they don't air um out here...must admit though it was been a minute since i actually got to sitdown and watch a full match this year in the EPL...even though i hear Adebayor is killin it in Arsenal and Ronaldo has settled down into being a lil reserved and its increased his value to the team...

but yeah i like soccer too...
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n0m
FPO, AP
18+ months ago     

now back to basketball...

i think Durant is a good player on a talented young team with a bright future as long as they can keep that talent together and let it grow...if u ask me KD has done as extraordinary job handling the pressure of being the go-to guy his first year...stepped into the role embraced it and has accepted the ups and downs...he'll eventually learn how to play consistently @ this level and there's where his talent will shine...but the kid is nice...

Jason Kidd been that triple/double threat guy his whole career...hell even @ Cal Berkley he was doin that...shits amazing to me always been an impressive thing to me...just wish he'd figure out how to be consistent with some kind of scoring ability...he's made a career outta doing everything else though...

the Lakeshow is doin it this year...i am impressed...i don't like um but respect is still respect...Kobe is arguably the greatest scorer ever and that hasn't changed but i like how he's taken that step back though a lil more this year...as a team though they've gotten more aggressive...there's a lot less steppin back and camping out when Kobe has the ball this year...Bynum was beasting prior to his injury showing signs of y they took that chance in the 1st place...2nd half of the year should be fun times...
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Metaphive
BATON ROUGE, LA
18+ months ago     

Jordan < Tom Brady, LeBron James, Joe Montana, LA Shaq, 81 point Kobe, Phil Jackson's religion, Scottie Pippen's wing span AND the 1972 Miami Dolphins

Combined. Plus he beat Larry Bird at horse in a commercial.

Michael Jordan's tongue would rip Gene Simmons tongue out his mouth and then swish it into a goal while fading away with 0.01 seconds left on an imaginary clock.

If he'd play baseball he'd of beaten Hank Aaron's record AND struck out 27 batters in a game, at least 9 times.
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n0m
FPO, AP
18+ months ago     

Metaphive wrote:

If he'd play baseball he'd of beaten Hank Aaron's record AND struck out 27 batters in a game, at least 9 times.






he played baseball in the minors...

contributions?...

made a theatrical bullshit diving catch where he fell to his knees and THEN slid AFTER the ball had already landed in his glove...

and he bought a team bus...
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Metaphive
BATON ROUGE, LA
18+ months ago     

I meant if he'd chosen baseball as opposed to basketball out of college.

And what do you want from him? Imagine how unnatural it felt diving forward after all those years of fading away. Dude probably felt like he was doing a back flip.
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n0m
FPO, AP
18+ months ago     

Metaphive wrote:

I meant if he'd chosen baseball as opposed to basketball out of college.

And what do you want from him? Imagine how unnatural it felt diving forward after all those years of fading away. Dude probably felt like he was doing a back flip.



lmao...i wanted less theactrics...flipside he got a standing ovation for the catch...more for the comedic aspect rather than the actual play though...
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n0m
FPO, AP
6 months ago     

Problem wrote:

mark my words...dude will break a lot of records and has far surpassed Jordan's credentials at the same age....Has potential to be the best, ever. And this is from a huge Jordan fan


Year and a half later...shit doesn't sound so far fetched now...dude still needs that ring though...

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Notorize
Milwaukee, WI
6 months ago     

haha by my count, he needs six

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n0m
FPO, AP
6 months ago     

Notorize wrote:


haha by my count, he needs six




@ 24...and right around the corner from his 1st...i'd say he's got time...

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Problem
Baltimore, MD
6 months ago     

I said Mark my em effin words...

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Problem
Baltimore, MD
6 months ago     

Jordan came in the league in 84 and got his first ring in 91. This is lebron's 6th year. Muahaha

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Problem
Baltimore, MD
6 months ago     

Nom what u think about Rondo, Dwight Howard being a talking vagina or Laker's/Nuggets matchup.

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anemic
Elizabeth, NJ
6 months ago     

Lebron is not good at all, dudes just power and speed with a mediocre jump shot and his field goal percentage just rising because of his bullshit dunks and layups, and the mediocre guarding against him, if they want to lebron can be shut down, lebron even said it himself kobe is better, and he is indeed far greater than lebron, kobe can make any shot without hesitation and with the best D against him, he can't be stopped, Kobe said he could make 60+ a game without hesitation because he decides not too, and look at kobes supporting cast, you got people who contribute way more than that tall ass ilgauskas, of course Lebron is going to look more dominant and better to the eye, i admit that, he does, but Kobe is on a whole other level than LeBron and LeBron knows this, LeBron carries his team on his shoulders, Kobe has his team holding each others hands.


 


 


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